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Friday, March 10, 2006

False Quotations [Catholic Answers forums]

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Originally Posted by ThomasMore1535
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Originally Posted by MikeDunphy
These are, in fact, the words of an unnamed individual writing in the January, 1970 issue of Notitiae, not the words of Pope Paul VI.
Doesn't matter. It was issued pursuant to Pope Paul VI's approval.
If Pope Paul VI didn't say something, saying that he did is an untruth. If Jesus Christ did not say something, saying he did is an untruth.

You have posted several new messages which I will attempt to respond to a greater length, as time permits, but I want to highlight this bit from your post #100:
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Originally Posted by ThomasMore1535
...this translation, although Scripturally inaccurate...
So are we to assume that Scripture got it wrong and ICEL got it right?

The new Mass, in its official, Latin form states that Jesus said He would shed His blood pro multis (as did the traditional Mass). Are we to assume that the creators of the new Mass got it wrong and ICEL got it right?

In English, the New Mass consecration of the wine is "Scripturally inaccurate". In Latin, the New Mass consecration of the wine is scripturally accurate. If we believe that Scripture accurately records what Jesus said at the Last Supper, we should go with the "scripturally accurate" version.

Holy Scripture and Holy Tradition are a more reliable guide to the mind of the Church than the questionable words of some unnamed individual and the undocumented claim that Paul VI agreed with those words. While I have seen no proof that Pope Paul VI agreed with the Notitiae article, it is a matter of public record that new Missal was promulgated in his reign. In the new Missal, Jesus says He sheds His blood pro multis, for many.

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